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FELONY to photograph a farm in Florida??
I just caught 2 articles, http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/0 … roparazzi/ & http://blogs.nppa.org/advocacy/2011/03/ … imes-fast/ about a newly elected Florida state senator (Republican from Hillsborough county) who's trying to pass a law that would make it a FELONY for anyone to photograph a farm or agricultural property, even if the shooter is standing on public property while doing it.
The bill is REALLY badly written, besides the obvious idiocy it doesn't clearly define a "farm" and in fact is loose enough that a house with a garden could be counted. The guy has said (according to the NPAA) that he's planning to amend it to take away the felony charge if the person taking the photos isn't trespassing while doing the shooting, but that still leaves the bill as an overall mess.
What, you might ask, is the NEED for this bill since trespassing (what the first part of the bill covers) is already illegal? He's trying to stamp out the creeping socialism of animal rights activists who might go on a property to document animal abuse. No, seriously. Some also suspect (noted in several comments from the NYT link) that he might be trying to stop documentation of abuse of migrant workers, since his district has a huge number of vegetable farms staffed largely by migrants.
As I said, this douchebag's a state senator, this isn't a national bill. Full text of the bill is HERE . I looked at his profile http://www.flsenate.gov/Senators/s12 and he introduced a FLURRY of fun bills yesterday, including an Arizona-style measure allowing cops to hassle anyone who looks foreign, a waiver to allow people to take guns in to elementary schools, a tax break for purchasing guns, and some bizarre resolution calling for the US constitution to be amended to protect foreign governments from being able to tell US parents how to raise their children. No, I'm not making that up.
Apparently amongst all the other "evils" this guy sees that we need to be protected from, my photos of BARNS are high up on the list. Hopefully the attention given to this idiocy will help make sure it doesn't pass.
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As used in this section, the term “farm” includes any tract of land cultivated for the purpose of agricultural production, the raising and breeding of domestic animals, or the storage of a commodity.
Interesting.
I happen to have five pounds of flour stored in my pantry. I guess I own a farm.
Photograph of a Florida farm. Actually, of a lot of Florida farms. Is this one count of felony photographing, or many? I wonder if the folks at Terrametrics are going to jail?
Roger, you point out 2 of the major holes in this bill. As it's written a farm is almost ANYTHING, and the people at Google cleasrly have to spend the rest of their lives in jail for Google Earth and Street View.
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Can anyone say the thread title ten times fast? 
Sounds like this guys idol is Joe Mcarthy.
This is a reply I received from someone in the Army who is stationed overseas:
As major farms in our country supply lots of our food, they naturally are targets for terriost attacks. That may sound stupid, but a biological attack on our food supply is very possible and would be to easy. Taking pictures of land, buildings, and other "areas" is the easiest way to gather the information needed to develop plans.
-=gcobb=-
Greg Cobb wrote:
This is a reply I received from someone in the Army who is stationed overseas:
As major farms in our country supply lots of our food, they naturally are targets for terriost attacks. That may sound stupid, but a biological attack on our food supply is very possible and would be to easy. Taking pictures of land, buildings, and other "areas" is the easiest way to gather the information needed to develop plans.
Greg, I could actually understand that, to a point, although I still wouldn't agree with the idea of making it a felony to photograph any nebulously defined "agricultural area" from otherwise public land... among other things, it'd be too easy to break the law ACCIDENTALLY.
But more to the point this guy SAID it was because of "creeping socialism" in the form of animal rights activists, not a WORD about terrorists & the food supply. Plus, as noted, his district & some of his biggest supporters have been burned by things like the ABC News hidden camera pieces on migrant worker abuse... and this would make that illegal.
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I haven't read it but I guess that might also include other "crops" including weed grows
this sounds really rediculous and most likely violates some civil rights. and definatly common sense.
Greg Cobb wrote:
This is a reply I received from someone in the Army who is stationed overseas:
As major farms in our country supply lots of our food, they naturally are targets for terriost attacks. That may sound stupid, but a biological attack on our food supply is very possible and would be to easy. Taking pictures of land, buildings, and other "areas" is the easiest way to gather the information needed to develop plans.
ugh with that mind set DIRT would be a stratigic material that could also be vulnerable to attack guess we better close the boarders and put up metal detectors and make people get permits to use the "DIRT"
crops out in the field would be a an exceedingly poor target because of its sheer size and volume it is magnatudes more effective to attack the food after its picked but even then you would have to do ALOT to have any large effect.
even if someone tried to infect crops with some form of blight banning photography would do nothing to effect that.
What do you expect? Its Florida.
And I'm sick of every idiotic idea being blamed on the "terrorists." All that is doing is letting them win. The day the terrorists lose is the day that not one person wastes a second thinking about them.
Finally- if I wanted to attack a civilian population, I'd go after three things- the power grid, the water supply, and the transportation network. Blow up a few bridges and power generation facilities and poison a reservoir or two and you'd shut down the normal lives of millions of people.
http://www.salon.com/news/agriculture/i … y_open2011
Not sure about the interpretation given, "Norman is toting water for large agribusinesses" Salon is after all a supremely left leaning web site. Interesting never-the-less.
I'm all for tax breaks on guns.
Dare2 be Photography wrote:
Greg Cobb wrote:
This is a reply I received from someone in the Army who is stationed overseas:
As major farms in our country supply lots of our food, they naturally are targets for terriost attacks. That may sound stupid, but a biological attack on our food supply is very possible and would be to easy. Taking pictures of land, buildings, and other "areas" is the easiest way to gather the information needed to develop plans.ugh with that mind set DIRT would be a stratigic material that could also be vulnerable to attack guess we better close the boarders and put up metal detectors and make people get permits to use the "DIRT"
crops out in the field would be a an exceedingly poor target because of its sheer size and volume it is magnatudes more effective to attack the food after its picked but even then you would have to do ALOT to have any large effect.
even if someone tried to infect crops with some form of blight banning photography would do nothing to effect that.
Look up over your head. 
-=gcobb=-
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