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I just received a “new model” notification from OMP about a model who joined in my area.  Nice looking girl . . . but her claimed measurements were vastly wrong.  The bust measurement was probably right:  34B, she says.  But even though she is quite slim, her waist was stated to be 32”, and her hips 30” – given her height, weight, age and photos, the waist measurement was wrong by at least 7 inches and the hips by 4”.  Even if you don’t know how to measure, it’s hard to do it any reasonable way that is wrong and get to a 32” waist measurement when reality is closer to 25”.   Clearly she had not measured – and hadn’t even bothered to make a reasonable guess.

But that’s very common.  Women don’t know how to measure themselves, and don’t bother to do it anyway.  They just put down anything that pops into their heads. 

Let’s try to quantify the problem: I took a look at the most recent models to sign up here.  There were 8 new models of the 20 in the “newest members” section.  That’s the good news.  The bad news is that of those eight, four have listed stats that are clearly wrong and one likely is wrong; most of them don’t even give an appearance of trying.

What is a casting director, client or photographer to think when they see a model who lists her stats as 12-12-12?  Two of the most recent sign-ups claim that.  Or perhaps 34C-12-18, or 34A-28-12?  And yet those are really what is on the models’ profiles.  Another of the most recent lists 32B-25-33; she is 5’6” tall and 112 pounds, she says, so it’s just possible, but quite unlikely that her hips measurement is correct.  Most likely she tried and just didn’t know how to measure properly.

One of those new sign-ups above is beautiful, 5’9” tall, and seems from her stated weight and pictures to be fashion-model thin.  But using the “find” tool, inserting required stats of 5’9” or taller and a hips measurement from 32 to 35 inches – as a fashion client might - she does not show up in the search.  And that’s a shame, because she is costing herself potential jobs for which she seems to be very well qualified. 

People using model listing sites search often use measurements (“stats”), and if they are listed wrong, either the model won’t be found in the search, or will be disqualified once the truth is known.

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As a Team Insider, I look at every new port. Sometimes the stats are close, other times they are so far off base it is laughable. I do have to agree that folks with wrong stats loose gigs more then they gain.

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What's crazy is that you can go into a tailor (or dry cleaners, or even a department store that has an alterations department, like Nordstrom) and get measured, usually for free.

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Having never seen the female model application I have no idea what the options may be for selection.
Certainly no one is 12 waist or 17 hips ... is it a default for no answer selected ?  Please , that would be too easy for me to indicate here.

I recently saw a male model write his chest was xx-DDD or some gauge of numerical ridiculousness.

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I just checked.  There is a default of 12 inches for each of the three stats, and there is no mechanism to allow male models to put in stats relevant to them.  Management has been notified.

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Here's Robin and the profile stat on chest i mentioned.  Quite possible he may be listed in a different gender catagory if he can put xx-DDD as chest size.


http://www.modelinsider.com/2273

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No, as near as I can tell, there is no way for a male model to properly input stats as the system is currently designed.  I'm in conversation with the designers now to get it fixed.

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Well , it appears the 12 inch stat has new light as to why.

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Models Fotog wrote:

Well , it appears the 12 inch stat has new light as to why.

I have one stat that is a 12... but there is no place to enter it in a photographers port. roll


I know what you where thinking... You bunch o pervs...

It was my IQ. lol

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Jessie Murray
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Yeah I used my mothers sewing measuring tape.I know some models that say they way more then me and are about the same height and trying to say they have a waist much smaller then mine.Wouldnt it just kill them to buy the sewing measuring tape and put down their try measurements.

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Jessie Murray wrote:

Yeah I used my mothers sewing measuring tape.I know some models that say they way more then me and are about the same height and trying to say they have a waist much smaller then mine.Wouldnt it just kill them to buy the sewing measuring tape and put down their try measurements.

I think that would take some interest and effort on the part of the model. I think that is why many expereinced photographers say, "Next" on ports like that. On the other hand, GWC only look at pictures and don't mind paying for a nakie or semi clad beauty. If the model only wants money, she could have just the following in her bio "If you are not larger than a walrus, don't contact me." and still get the same clientale. big_smile

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@#&%*# Measure : The stuff (ok we're straying from the original forum) , The stuff the Models write in their ports - blows me out and off their page triple Faaasst. There's a whole Other forum just on Profiles somewhere. I love reading the portfolio's with the verbiage " Not , Don't and Asks , I will Not , Do Not's , Don't Ask " and I will be bring a fireMan , PostMan, Police Men to all my shoots.
Ok , so some stretching here in the previous sentence. But true to point. The only person I ever met whom brought an Escort to the meet, I knew was going to not follow thru on all the swill that she mentioned. She immediately fell off the Flat Earth. The port is a resume of your creativity , awards , accomplishments and future plans. It is not for writing what you want to aVoid, Its an Advertisement of ones Self.  But, however many self profess their own "Not wants" and bring them to life to then continuely meet them in their own path.  The postive forward moving port gets the snap, period.

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Jessie, it's possible they do...weight isn't a good indicator of measurements until you get over the fifty-lb marker. My weight has varied by as much as 40-lbs with no more than an inch's change to my measurements before...it's the shift from fat to muscle and back.

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I am a bodybuilder, so I have been taking my measurements for a LONG time.  It is very easy to look up "how-to" videos on taking measurements.  A measuring tape is not an expensive piece of equipment.   roll  Just my two cents.

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Sammie Jo
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incorrect measurements is actually one of my biggest pet peeves.
i dont know why, but i guess it just drives me up a wall when someone says their hips are 30" when its clear that they have larger hips than i do! *sigh*
it makes me want to shake that person and ask if they truely know what body part they are measuring.
in all honesty, its common sense but i just get flabbergasted by those who cant comprehend how to measure themself properly.